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Hi everyone. I know there has been a lot of threads on design master, but now that everyone has had time to get to grips with it could you give your honest opinion as to whether I should buy it. I know there is another software called funtime and don't know if that is a better one or not.
Also anyone that had problems with Design Master - did you get it sorted out ok?
I use inkscape at present. I would like to get into designing templates seriously.
Thanks,
Shirley
I really like the software and have found it quite easy to use and more user friendly than Inkscape. My biggest problem with it is it's lack of export facility. To convert files to a GSD format to share with the non DM owners here is a bit hit and miss. The only way I can do it is to capture the image and turn it into a jpeg to import in the robo software and trace around with auto trace. This is a bit hit and miss as the more complex the design the more rubbish the GSD looks in comparison to the GRA, maybe I am too fussy, but I seem to spend longer tidying up the GSD than it took me to draw it into DM in the first place. Still I am still working on it so I may get better.
Lynne
I have just got mine and had terrible trouble installing it - it kept crashing my PC - I phoned graphtec who said I need to update my PC - but that didn't help - in the end I decided to uninstall the bit that was on there and - hey presto - it continued to install instead and now is working. It also took over my com port which houses another dongle for a different software, so I had to mess about with that one, but fingers crossed all is now well. I suspect the problem was because I do have several security devices for different programmes and I think there was a conflict between them.
Sue
I'd be interested to know as well! Do I take the plunge?:lol:
I much prefer DM to Inkscape - find it easier to use, it cuts better and the manual's really informative. I didn't have any problems with installation.
Jenny
Thanks everyone. Does sound good but alot of people seem to be having problems installing and it's that that's puting me offf!
Shirley
I do think this is a matter of choice here we or most of us have used inkscape now for a long time and have gotton to grips with that and it worls well for what you need to do.
However i have the knk elements and the software for that is brilliant similar to dm but has all capabliltys, i could never grasp lattice in inkscape but i can do no hassell with knk studio.
hope this helps
tina x
Thanks Tina, What is KNK like for welding and matting?
Shirley
brilliant and you can now buy the knkge version and it cut straight to robo
its very similar to dm
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TinaQuote:
Originally Posted by silverst170
Do you mind me asking how you are doing your lattice in KNK please. I have managed to do it but I'm sure that I'm making more of a meal of it than I need to.
Thanks
Janet
yes pm me janet
Can anyone give me a clue as to where I can buy the KNK Software please.
Thanks
Shirley
sharon the scrapbooklady sells it and shes a sponser, you need the ge version if you want to cut to robo other wise you will hae to go through inkscape to make gsd
tina x
Thanks Tina, Away to have a look now.
Shirley
My BF's mum is looking to get a Robo with the DM software, she's not very PC literate and so I know I'm going to be called upon to help out, but that's going to be difficult without having the software so I may have to look at buying it
Just wish I could get a trial version to see if I can do everything in it that I can manage to do in Inkscape. Have been using that for over a year now and so can pretty much figure out all I want to do in it with a bit of trial and error
I have the KNKStudioGE too and am delighted with it. It has so many advantages for me, and is very user friendly too.
I have KNK full version, DM and was one of the first on the Forum to find and try Inkscape in February 2006.
I have no problems with any of these programs but that's a me thing - I read, experiment and have a thing about pressing buttons to see what they do .
No program is easy it just depends on how determined you are to make it work - you need patience, time and a bit of logical thinking. Sometimes things go pear shaped - sometimes because they've gone pear shaped you find something new!
the number of times we get people yelling for help - I can't do this or it won't work, I don't know how to etc is because they've either 1) not followed the instructions to the letter or 2) are trying to run before they can walk.
For every program you mention there'll be those for and those against - those for whom it worked first time and those who still can't get it to do the simplest things- Inkscape is an excellent program and if you follow the basic tutorials it will teach you most of what you need to know; these ideas can then be taken into other programs as the theory is the same. From when we started two years ago the various techniques we developed have been refined and results have gone from minimal to mind blowing.
So don't judge too much by the problems you see here - if you consider how many copies of DM Graphtec have sold they really are minimal.
HTH
Susibi :D
yes susibi i quite agree really there's lots who cant grasp inkscape and couldnt till you did you tutorial, and i for one was one of those people it took me ages, but thank god i can now,
learning anew program for some is never easy but as you say time and patients and it will pay off
tina x
I never really got to grips with inkscape, but have got used to DM very quickly. Now i have found the tutorial on crafty club, i am flying. I had a few problems initially, but everyone on here have been so great and they are sorted now. Last night i managed to produce a star with wording welded around the edge, very pleased with the result and didn't take long.
sammy
Thanks everyone, I guess what is really puting me of with DM is the fact that you have hassle if you have to reinstall. I'll way it all up. Thanks again,
Shirley
It's not supplied or supported by Graphtec so you would need to go elsewere for help and support if you buy this. But if you check back you'll find some people have bought it and are happy using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by **Shirley**
There's nothing to stop you doing "serious" designing in inkscape (Erika has used it for many of her popup templates), and in the basic Robomaster software - look at Jenniebean's templates for example! It's not the software, it's what you choose to do with it that counts: you can design beautiful templates with very simple, basic software if you set your mind to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by **Shirley**
But having said that, it's always best find something that you're happiest and most comfortable using. So sit down and compare the different software packages against what features you feel you need for the type of templates you want to create. Some may be better than others for certain functions, and so what is ideal for one person won't necessarily be so for another... And you may find you'll want or prefer to use different software for different types of templates.
Rosemary
I'm just looking at the DM Manual and it says it can open .eps and PDF files.
Has anyone created a file in Inkscape, saved it as either an eps or pdf, and then opened it in DM without losing any of the design.
It's ok - just found my answer on page 59 of the DM manual
had read that far down at the time I asked my question :D
Thanks Rosemary. You have gave me a lot to think about.
Shirley
I've done it quite a few times... use the eps choice and make sure you select the bounding box option. Also make sure your design is completely inside the document boundaries in Inkscape. When you import into DM, use the pdf import filter when asked. I think that's all you need to know. I cover this in the User Manual... Section 6.7 under converting from .SVG to .GRA. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NikiB
I've been really pleased with DM. I'm a new user but have managed to make a few things using Sandy's manual and playing. It installed fine for me first time - no hassle at all. I'm really glad I bought it.
Just to add, mine installed first time no problems, Was worried that there might be a delay with the license files, as i did it at Christmas, but it came straight back.
sammy
I have found design master quite simple. I follow the manual to do basic stuff and click on buttons just to see what they do. But I have a very simple sort of brain. I did try to use Inkscape and it worked if I ticked off each step as I went but I couldn't really understand what I was doing. Could someone please explain what a "path" actually is? And "path-exclusion" ? I think that would help a lot.
Thanks for your patience!
Imagine drawing a simple shape with a pencil - as you draw you are tracing a path. If you draw a circle you have a closed path . That's the basic idea.
If you weld two shapes together all you are doing is creating one path out of two closed shapes ( if you draw a square then draw a circle over one side of the square then trace round the outline the final result is a welded shape ie an outline). The path exclusion technique is telling the software that those two shapes you have put one inside the other to form a frame should be treated as a single path.
To get shapes to weld they both have to be in the same state ie both paths other wise it's like trying to mix oil and water.
HTH
Susibi :D
Thanks so much Susibi, that really does help. I will have another look at the tutorials with that in mind.
hugs.
There should be an inkscape tutorial (under help in the software!) that also shows you illustrations of the results of different types of welds. Look at the advanced one - under the "boolean" section i think it is... They helped to clarify things for me!
Rosemary
Here is also a thread about some of the commands in Inkscape and what they do, on page 2 of the thread I'd added some pictures so you can easily see the results of each command
Thanks Dozyrosy and Niki. I'm now trying to decide what I can safely forget in order to make room in my brain for this new stuff lol !
But yes, things are gradually becoming clearer.
I think Graphtec should be sending you flowers, as I'm sure they wouldn't sell nearly as many robos if it weren't for the amazing help and advice us novices receive on this forum.
love from Lynda
What you've learned already can also help you when it comes to using different software. So treat it as potential building blocks to base any new learning on. The principles are often the same even though the names of the functions or the steps you take may be slightly different.
Rosemary