Well the title says it all
Hayley prepare prepare prepare.
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Well the title says it all
Hayley prepare prepare prepare.
Everything was going well until she tried to remove the design from the Card or paper, how can anyone new to electronic cutting believe that the Silhouette Cameo is capable of cutting anything; when 1 simple design can't be shown cutting successfully. When Mel demonstrates the Cricut the amount of designs that she manages to make that machine cuts, makes people forget that they are limited to the patterns that are available on the expensive cartridges......:nono::nono:
I missed the show, but from comments I think it's a great pity that Vicky isn't still with Graphtec as she was a very competent demonstrator.
Angel - I've always been impressed with Mel's demonstrations and knowledge - if I'd ever considered a Cricut, she'd have been the one to convince me! :lol:
Rosemary
I had it on in the background, then thanks to the Sky box took it back to the beginning to fast forward only stopping on what I thought was interesting and had missed, not a lot!!!!! :nono: The program was advertised as Cards with Silhouette CAMEO!!!!!!
Tina's samples from her new CD looked really lovely but the rest was just waffle (sorry sales spiel). I normally like Dean, but this afternoon he was worse than Nigel. One small demo which went wrong, the Cameo owner phoning in last time was repeated. Hayley did mention checking your blade depth against he card and went through a list of materials with little samples it will cut, including Centura Pearl, which will not cut properly on my Cameo. :nono: :angry:
I think the programs gets worse not better. :(
I watched it i thought it was terrible only one demonstration that went wrong!!
And a load of waffle.
(Tinas designs were beautiful though.)
But whare were the 'cards'.
If Hayley has got a Cameo surely by now she would be quite expert at creating 'cards' with it.
I was verydissapointed again.
Does our Brilliant Cameos no good at all.
Dakflowers
I agree I sat there waiting and waiting for what as you say one demo that went wrong all they could do was to repeat themselves over and over a 1 hour show is not long enough to show the Cameo to its full potential.
I had a relative here at the weekend and when I showed her what it could go a bit of a novice myself (although I think that I could show it off better than Hayley) she was so taken with it that she ordered one when she got home.
I forgot to watch this one, but from what is being said here and what I saw in previous shows, she does not use a Cameo, which makes you wonder where her loyalties really lie.
I might be naive, but wouldn't you think knowing this show was coming up she would have planned some nice demo's and actually practised them before hand. One thing for sure she isn't doing Graphtec any favours.
I think that maybe Hayley has too many fingers in too many pies. I've seen her demo many many other crafts such as knitting or craft CDs etc. and all her programmes seem to lack REAL demos which makes her a sort of Jack/Jane of all trades but master/mistress of none!
Why o why is Hailey demoing the Cameo she is totally maligning a great machine she hasnt a clue definitely not doing Graphtec any favours
I read on another forum a post by Hayley a while ago and if I remember rightly she described herself as a freelance craft demonstrator and Graphtec was one of her clients.
To be fair to C&C I find some of their programs are real good with some very talented guests, Sheena Douglas, Sue Wilson, Barbara Grey, Joanna Sheen, Mel Heaton, Matthew Palmer. Even my hubby will watch Sheen, Barbara and Matthew and he does not like t.v. shopping. The camera work on the demons is really good and far better than QVC. I think it also really depends upon the producers in the gallery getting it right and with the Cameo programs so far they are failing. Maybe they think just saying what the Cameo can do and showing the finished samples is enough to sell the machine.
If anything sold the Cameo to people yesterday then it was Tina's cards that were on display and not Hayley. I find that she 'fumbles' through the whole show not really telling anyone anything and instead of saying 'oh, that demo when wrong, lets do it again' and laughing it off, she stands there for what seemed like 20 minutes trying to get the design off the carrier, while the presenter waffles on a bit.
As you say Lucille, having Hayley as a demonstrator does not do Graphtec any favours at all, they need to stop using her and find someone who can demo the machine properly.
On another thread I put a link to a website which had a profile of Hayley saying just that - that she's a freelance craft demonstrator for various companies.
I recorded a two hour prog on the silhouette once where she demo'd and she seemed extremely excited and seemed to know what she was doing however she only really showed on aspect of it - she demonstrated how to make your own frame using a single design then she cut it out. She waffled a lot about things that never materialised. She said she cuts decoupage out on it and that she would show everyone how to do that but it never happened and I was very disappointed. She definitely did not show off the machine to its full potential and I didn't understand exactly what it could do until after I bought it.
I've never seen her do the cameo though - something to be avoided if you ask me - oh I tell a lie - she was on the Graphtec stall at the NEC in Brimingham last November but I didn't actually see her do anything specific
As you have all said, it was a complete disaster AGAIN.
On another website, this was the complaint yesterday and also after the last time it all went wrong. Hayley herself came on there to comment on the posts in tones that did her NO favours, ending with saying Graphtec pay her wages and they are delighted with her. As so many weeks have gone by, I was really looking forward to yesterday -coffee and scone and feet up, and I could have wept.
Graphtec's own Corrine (sorry if thats spelt wrong) does beautiful work with the cameo - so they have their own in-house expert. If she is too shy at the thought there are loads of wonderful talented people on here whoI am sure would gladly show HOW to do things properly, what the heck are they thinking of?
Tutti Frutti has hit the nail on the head in my opinion.
Rant over - feel better now!
Uhm! Now let me see. I wonder what/who might benefit from rubbish demonstrations of the Cameo (A SUPERIOR CUTTING MACHINE) being broadcast by a shopping channel.
Is the channel also an authorised supplier of the Cameo, as well as other makes of cutting machine?
Well i was out and recorded the show and was looking forward to perhaps brill demo's,well big mistake on my part to expect that,the demo as everyone has said was a disaster and dean would just not shut up to allow anymore,good job i was not wanting a machine and brought mine because i loved my craft robo.
I think Dean was asked to waffle to cover the void by things going wrong. He went over the other products so many times - I'm sure I was reciting the stock numbers in my sleep.
Why don't they get somebody who knows what they are doing like one of the girls on hear like Lucille or Tina ?
:lol::lol: Ooooo Pesco I can always rely on you to brighten my day, you're not talking Sabotage because C&C are the Main retailer for the Crapcut machine are you? Surely you are not suggesting that if they permitted a decent demo of the Cameo, then the sales of their Crapcuts would take a dive??? 'OH how could you be so cynical' :nono::lol::lol::lol:
I recorded it because I was out. I played it back at 1.3 times speed as I did the ironing and so glad I didn't waste any longer watching it.
They would have been better not demoing it for all the good that programme has done.
I am new to cutting machines and I have a craftrobo so i thought it would be good to watch this programme and get some tips I was very disappointed she told me absolutely nothing that I do not know already and I have learned a lot more from this forum thanks to all the help I have been given i watched it because I know one of the girls that did some samples for Tina for the show and I am sure shw would be very disappointed as well
Anne
I didn't think much of the show either. Dean really got on my nerves (as usual). He's too full of himself. I wish C&C would get rid of him.
Why would C&C feature a product it wants to make money from and not want to do it justice? If that's the case they shouldn't sell it if they prefer to sell the Cricut and all the expensive cartridges.
If Graphtec won't/can't use anyone else to do their demos then the least they can do is train Hayley up properly. That way it's less embarrassment for the company, the shopping channel, and Hayley herself. Who knows, maybe they'd get more people switching on than switching off!!
Hi can I ask where the thread for Hayleys comment is have had a look around but cannot see it, would appreciate the direction please. Many thanks. H
I don't think you will find it on this site.
Anyone who didn't see the programme, didn't miss anything. It was called making cards with the cameo. Hayley only cut 1 thing & that didn't work. It really was a disaster. Graphtec if you read this get a new demonstrator. She is doing you more harm than good. Who would buy a cameo after seeing this demo. I saw Hayley demonstrate it at Birmingham last Nov & she was terrible then. Her reason for not knowing much was that it was a new machine BUT the software was not new. I feel she lets Cameo down very badly. I LOVE MY CAMEO (but not the ratchet blade). I agree that the only saving Grace was Tina's designs they are brilliant.
I know Hayley and she is so lovely. I never saw this particular show so I cant comment, but I know on a previous show I heard that there were lots of computer and studio problems going on that had a knock on effect on the demonstrations.
Having said that, I think everyone in the cutting machine world knows that Tina is the queen of cutting, and in addition to designing such fantastic templates, she did an amazing job when she was on C&C demonstrating the machine with Vickie.
Maybe Graphtec should consider pairing up Haley and Tina, so that have the presenting experience and the machine experience in the one show.
I agree with Fuschia
I have found that the shopping channels spend so much time telling me about "limited stock" etc., etc., that they seldom actually show you anything of any use. I have learned far more from these forums and You Tube than from any of the so-called experts. Patmoa
Hi I am fairly new to the forum and don't post very often but after reading your post I wanted to say that my friends and I use Centura Pearl on our Cameos most of the time and it cuts perfectly I am wondering if your settings need adjusting as it is a lovely card to be able to use! It might be worth doing some test cuts with different settings as it should cut it with ease!
Heather xx
Heather I tried (it's all in another post). Went through all different settings but stopped when it started cutting into my cutting mat. It was an intricate flowery pattern. Test cuts were done on alphabet letters, but even when I had a clean cut with them the main pattern was not a clean cut and I had ruined two sheets of Centura Pearl trying.
My replacement Cameo blade is pants and my trusty Robo blade could not do it either, so I put it down to the card which seems a bit fibrous. When I do an embossed score line for the fold using a board it often skates off line out of the groove.
Sometimes a design itself can be the reason for poor cuts: some can be badly made or badly traced, and have various problems that don't show up until you zoom in to take a closer look. So it might be worth checking it over to see if you can spot anything which might be the cause and then you could hopefully fix it?
Rosemary
Neries - as Rosemary said perhaps the problem is with the file, if it's from here can you post a link to the file and I'll take a look at it.
I would also say if you get a bad cut, don't use your good card again until you have tried it with cheap paper and maybe even a pen, in case it is the file.
I know most of us were disapointed with the way the previous shows went and theres none more disapointed then Hayley herself. I do respect Hayley for keep going.
As, the majority of us, would love to see an interesting productive show lets give Hayley abit of support. Ive posted my thoughts on her blog and she has been gracious to answer and take on board what i wrote.
I am not a very experienced Cameo user but those of youi out there may have some extra tips or tricks you may want to pass on
Heres her blog details
http://hayley-west.blogspot.co.uk/
Sue
I've got a tip for Hayley, practice, practice, practice and prepare, like other demonstrators do.:angry:
PS. Your link isn't working properly unless it was meant to go to the page it does :huh: