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[Jem]

I had no idea what to title this thread so I used ??? lol.

1st... does anyone have any idea how I'd go about finding out names of racing tipsters who worked for the Daily Mail in the 60's? I was talking to my dad tonight after finding 2 sisters for his dad that no-one knew about and he remembered that one of his aunts (Ellen) married and moved to Birmingham, her husband worked for the Daily Mail as a tipster.

2nd one is how can I find out about Monks attached to Easby Abbey in the 1950's 60's 70's , dad remembers his gran's brother as a Monk who went to Australia and came back, he thinks his name was Harry. I can ask for info on him if I can figure out which order he belonged to, I've searched for ages and can't find anything for more recent years, only for way back when (1500's and before).

[jqp]

For the first one, try contact the Daily Mail - sports section I would think.

As to the second one, how about contacting Easby Abbey direct. I'm sure they would have records of him.

If all else fails, there was a thread earlier about a TV programme....how do you fancy being famous?!?

[Jem]

I'll try the daily mail :), but Easby Abbey hasn't existed since the 1500's and I'm not sure which church the monks would have been from... why say Easby Abbey? Just to confuse me I reckon lol. I did phone my dad back and tell him he must have alzheimers when I saw that Esby Abbey is ruins and has been for 100's of years but he is positive that it's Easby Abbey, urgh.

JQP, you're a star, thanks for all your ideas! Sometimes just having a bouncing board can make you think of a few other bits you hadn't tried already :)

[jqp]

Thanks for such kind words. It' s nice to brain working!!!

Just a thought, perhaps there is a monastery near Easby Abbey. I looked at monasteries in BT.co.uk and there are an awful lot of religious places and convents, but not monasteries...mmm. Maybe one of the convents would know.

From another thread, nuns are generally buried under their 'nun' name, so presume would be the same for monks...that bit probably didn't help! Sorry...

[GardenAngel]

Jem
It's a real long shot, but could it have been that the monks order originated from Easby Abbey or something? Sounds a bit unlikely - but I did find the following - don't know if it will help.

"The Abbey of St. Agatha, Easby was founded in 1152 by Roald, Constable of Richmond Castle. Easby is a house of the Premonstratensian order, founded by St Norbert of Pemontre, Laon, France in 1120. The inhabitants were canons rather than monks and were known as "white monks". They undertook preaching and pastoral work in the region (such as distributing meat and drink) but followed a code of austerity similar to that of Cistercian monks. Other Premonstraterian houses include Egglestone (Co Durham) and Shap (Cumbria).
The Premonstratension order still exists and a small group of these Chanones de Premontre now run the former Benedictine Abbey at Conques in South West France, which has become well known as a refuge for pilgrims travelling the Way of Saint James, from Le Puy en Velay in Auvergne, to Santiago de Compostella in Galicia, Spain."

Kerry x

[Jem]

thanks Kerry, I found a bit of text saying there were Cistercian Monks and then St Cuthbert Monks there too! urgh, looks like this is gonna take some working out, one day hopefully some of my family tree will just fall into place easily!!

[GardenAngel]

Don't know if you came across this page on GENUKI about Easby
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Easby/Easby90.html

The info is from 1890, and from reading the 13th paragraph on the page it seems there was a house called Easby Abbey, near the ruins! Maybe there was an order of monks there? This is the extract

"There are several neat dwellings in the township. Easby Abbey, situated near the ruins, is the residence of C. L. P. Robinson, Esq.; Sandlord House is the property and residence of Anthony Harrison, Esq.; and St. Trinians, the residence of Mr. Charles Marr, of the firm of Croft, Marr, & Co., wine and spirit merchants, Richmond."

Kerry x

[Jem]

thanks Kerry :)