**IMPORTANT** Team point changes

[scrapdolly]

Teams Update

We have had a few issues regarding points in the past few months and so we have decided to overhaul the system a little and set some new limits on points reporting.

We want this to continue to be a fun competition, where it works on trust, and so we have decided that work does not have to be uploaded to be counted towards your points, unless it falls into one of the categories below.
I have consulted with all of the house leaders and Fi and I have discussed it at length to make sure it is a fair and workable system.

Our concern was to keep everyone happy. Clearly it would be unfair to say that everything had to be uploaded to count as some people prefer not to share their work or are unable to chare it due to technical difficulties or because it is work for publication. However, we have had to look at setting limits for work that is not necessarily uploaded and have now agreed what these limits should be.

Claiming for more than 39 layouts

If you claim points for more than 39 layouts in a month you will need to scan or photograph all of your work and send an email showing all of the layouts to
scrappybunny (fi@scrapkids.com)
Please do not send 40 different e mails. Link lots of pages together digitally so one A4 sheet may contain 30 small images for example. That we we can verify, for everyone, that that number of pages have been completed, that the pages are all different, not duplicates of the same page and that pages are not being re-worked with only slight modifications. Please remember a double Lo counts as 2 pages when working out your totals in this way as it is worth 20 points.

Claiming for more than 2 mini books /tag books/accordion books

If you claim for more than 2 mini books in a month the pages must all be scanned and e mailed in the same way as detailed above.

Claiming more than 5 Circle Journals

If you claim for more than 5 circle journals in a month the pages must all be scanned and e mailed as detailed above.

Points for cards

We have also made the decision to cease giving points for cards. There has always been an issue over cards and whether or not cards made for sale could be included. We have therefore decided that, as the team points system has always been to focus attention on scrapping, cards can no longer be included. Team leaders just leave that column blank on your forms in future.

Weekly Challenges

Weekly challenges will now run from Monday to Sunday with the new challenges being posted in the forum and on the font page on a Monday. The changes will come into effect on 1st July so the challenge set on 22nd June will just be an extra long one with the new challenge not being set until Monday 3rd July and will then return to weekly after that. I will post an altered schedule in the weekly challenges thread and remind the teams coming up that they have to post on a different day. Points will remain unchanged at a maximum of 30 per week.

We know that some people will be unhappy with the changes, but we have tried to keep any changes as small as possible to make it the best possible system we can have for everyone involved. There are now more than 75 teams involved, amounting to some 750 people, so clearly we are not going to please everyone, but we have had a jolly good try!

These changes will come into effect straight away so will affect your submission of points for June.

Thank you all for continuing to support the whole team system on UKS, for taking part, playing along with the challenges, reporting points and – for doing what we all do so well – for chatting and scrapping
Karen x

[Flo]

hi Karen

is that more than 5 Circle Journal books, or more than 5 CJ layouts, please?

(I always do at least 5 CJ LOs in a month, but not books)

pity about the cards, as that was about the only other thing I ever earn any points on - but I can see your logic!

:)

[scrapdolly]

It's five circle journal layouts - working on the premis that one circle journal layout is usually a double page spread.

[ljrn]

Karen - not whinging, just looking for clarification. I could see a situation where someone is in a lot of CJs and it happens that they stack up unexpectedly - perhaps 5 are done in a month and then the 6th one arrives, the scrapper is inspired and does it that day. They might not have taken pics of the first 5 - is there any flexibility here or are we best holding over the 6th CJ?

[Woozle]

I'm really sad that the honour system for the points has obviously led to one or more situations where some people to feel that it is being abused. I think the lovely piece written by Petra Hudson a year or so two ago went a long way to explain to some people how she was able to achieve large quantities of beautiful LOs - and the fact that she chooses to scrap rather than watch hours of big brother or Corrie went a long way towards it!

When I read the new rules, many things went through my mind - but the following seem key at this stage:

What about those people who do not have a digi camera or scanner? Are they now limited to 39 pages or 5 CJs a month?

As you get an extra 25pts for "making" your CJ (cover, intro page, sign in page etc) - that has always been included in the CJ column - thus somebody making 3 CJs in a month AND doing an entry in each of those CJs will actually have 6 in their column - whilst they have really only done 3 IYKWIM. Do we need an extra column for CJ's started or would you be wanting pics of those too?

Many people do a gift album with a similar LO/style/product for each page so they may do 20 LOs but rattle them out in a few hours - in fact there are kits sold & classes given to enable people to do exactly this ... just because somebody chooses to do this, they shouldn't be penalised just because their pages look "similar".

The original rules never said that you couldn't claim points for duplicate pages - eg if you were making 2 gift albums for different people. When I made 3 gift albums for a Christmas gift 2 yrs ago - each was similar but subtley different - the journalling on each was different, there were things specfic to each recipient - but the generic LO was the same. Just because I used the same papers & rough LO, I still had to mat the pictures, print the journalling, stick it together, add the eyelets etc - in fact each page was a LO of its own & had a lot of work (photo matting, hidden journalling pockets, multiple eyelets etc) & the fact that I created 3 LOs that were very similar was no less work than if I had created 3 different LOs.
From your message above, it appears that the hard work for the second & third pages are not "worth" the additional points? Similarly, some people use the same sketch for mutiple LOS - and whilst I'm sure it's not your intention, may think that this is "pages being re-worked with only slight modifications"? Similarly, somebody may use the same kit for multiple pages & the pages will naturally have a very similar feel ...

As you state that a double LO is 2 pages - and that you require "proof" for 39 pages or more, that's only 20 DLOs - not really very many ...
I can do fancy/complex, I just prefer not to. I do a lot of planning in advance but when I sit down to scrap I can get a lot done. I did 3 DLO & 4 SLO last weekend - that's over 1/2 way to the "limit" - I'm now worrying whether I should bother scrapping today as planned - I mean, I may hit my page limit if I'm not careful ...

I choose not to upload most of my work as I am currently doing a lot of photos of children (Guides etc) and am not allowed to post them without explicit permission to publish on a public board - which I haven't got & as many of them are older photos I have no way of getting in touch with the people in the pics to ask their permission - but even pics of family etc I do not necessarily have permission to post - so I won't ... but then I'm funny about such things & would be LIVID if somebody posted a picture of me on a board without my persmission ...

[Secretme]

Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear, are points really so important to the minority that it warrants cheating :wacko: never mind, it's happened and now UKS is on the right track to sorting it out and trying to be fair to everyone B)

I really dont see any problems, as long as we are all playing to the same rulebook, things will soon get back to normal :wub:

Surely the finest part about scrapping is the enjoyment of the UKS community and enjoying our wonderful craft, the points is just an added bonus. For me it is anyway, but then I suppose change can be hard on members that have grown with UKS and been around a while. Things will settle down again soon, i'm sure :P

Right as a team leader, I will go and update my team and delete any points for Cardmaking.

Chill folks and enjoy ;)

[Tanya]

As Scrapdolly said, you can't please them all!

Well done with all the hard work Karen and Fi, I really can't believe there are 75 teams now!!!!

[scrapdolly]

I understand your disappointment and concerns but with so many comments and complaints we had to do something. Beleive me, it was not soemthing that was decided hastily or without considerable thought.
I think that there is also a valuable points to make.
When you make multiple albums which are very similar you are still having the fun and enjoyment of doing them and - providing you send a scan to Fi you can still count the points. The team points thing isn't the reason WHY any of scrap - we would be scrapping these things anyway - it is just a bit of fun to share with friends when doing points.

We have just tried to smooth out the team thing. (And for the record - I am one of the people who often does more than 39 LO a month! so it does affect me. I don't watch the TV but scrap in every spare moment too.)

It was suggested that everyone had to upload work for it to count and one of the reasons why I did not want to go down that route was because some people do not have the technology to upload, some people choose not to share their work, some people cannot share their work as it includes pictures of children etc or they are doing layouts for gifts for people on the board or for magazine or design teams. That is why we have said you still do not HAVE to upload.

The new limits will affect relatively few people out of the 700+ involved in the teams. The figures are based on the House leaders wacthing the points from the teams and from what they have reported back it will actually affect very few. And the people who do scrap huge amounts can still claimt he points, they just have to e mail the work to Fi.

With the situation with CJ's I would say yes, if it happens like that, hold one over to the next month. there were actually very few people showing more than 5 CJ's in a month

I am happy to answer any questions people have as best as I can. I am happy that this was thought out carefully to try and make it the best it could possibly be for everyone involved.

[Secretme]

When you make multiple albums which are very similar you are still having the fun and enjoyment of doing them and - providing you send a scan to Fi you can still count the points. The team points thing isn't the reason WHY any of scrap - we would be scrapping these things anyway - it is just a bit of fun to share with friends when doing points.



Here here, my sentiments exactly :) Thanks for your continued hard work and support Karen (and Fi, although we have not met yet)

[katy75]

Thanks for the update Karen. A shame it has come to this, my feeling was that collecting points was just a bit of fun. I can't believe UKS has to legislate against cheating.

I am sure not everyone will be happy as you say, but the majority will appreciate all the hard work you put in helping the team system to function effectively.

One comment I do have is that I am aware some people would like to see points for ATCs and altering. Was there any discussion with regard to this? (Doesn't affect me as I don't do them, just wondering).

[scrapdolly]

Katy we did discuss ATC's etc and decided to keep the points for scrapping only and that was one of the reasons we stopped points for cards.

[SuzieR]

Karen, it all sounds fair to me! Just wanted to say huge thanks to you and Fi for organising all this - don't know how you do it! (and there is no way I'll ever get more than 39 LOs done in a month! :wacko: )

[fiona3103]

The changes to the points system sounds fair to me.

[lynncooper]

Just typed a long message and lost it!!

It seems fair to me, I also spend more time scrapping than with the TV, but with all the other jobs I need to do I would have difficulty doing 39 LO's. It's a shame about the cards, I do make a lot, but this is a scrapping site! I think I speak for our team when I say we enjoy getting points for our work, but the most important part of being in a team is supporting and sharing with one another - we love 'chatting' and enjoy one another's 'company', the points are an added bonus. Thanks for all you do Karen and everyone else, I do appreciate it uses up your precious scrapping time.

[jafman]

Just want to say that I have only recently joined a team.

Points are not the main aim of our team.

I am actually doing more layout's because my team give me inspiration and ideas and most of all confidence.

I definatly scrap for my benifit and not the teams.

(Though I must admit when we came last I did get my finger out:rolleyes:)

Thanks for all the work you do behind the scenes.:wub:

[nikkimitch]

It sounds like the changes are necessary and they do look fair - I for one tho will be submitting less points - I did 52 los last month as did a lot for local playgroup - i dont have time to scan or take photos of every layout and reduce size add to email etc as i have limited scrapping time as it is - I will therefore have to discount a lot of layouts each month which is a shame but not to worry obviously a lot of thought has gone into the changes so i will happily comply.

[Flo]

It's five circle journal layouts - working on the premis that one circle journal layout is usually a double page spread.

oh poo - I hope I remember to send the email each month then! (could I just point Fi to my blog, do you think? as I always put everything I do on there....)

Why such a low limit, if you don't mind me asking? 5 CJ LOs compared to 40 normal LOs...? (not a problem - I'm only curious!) I do appreciate that I'm in an excessive number of CJs so this probably won't be a problem for most people anyway, and at least I'm already scanning them all in, so no huge extra effort to pop them on an email, it's just that I might forget....

Sarah

[tinker]

IMO it sounds like the changes are necessary and they do look fair, so thanks to everyone who makes it all "work" and to Karen for the HUGE amount of work you do and also to Fiona our red house leader :D


Oh and i have passed it on to ALL in my team :D

[scrapdolly]

oh poo - I hope I remember to send the email each month then! (could I just point Fi to my blog, do you think? as I always put everything I do on there....)

Why such a low limit, if you don't mind me asking? 5 CJ LOs compared to 40 normal LOs...? (not a problem - I'm only curious!) I do appreciate that I'm in an excessive number of CJs so this probably won't be a problem for most people anyway, and at least I'm already scanning them all in, so no huge extra effort to pop them on an email, it's just that I might forget....

Sarah

We looked carefully at the numbers people were submitting and based our results on that

We have tried to make it very fair

[Flo]

fair enough - I'm just being lazy LOL, an extra email a month won't kill me :D

[AJH]

Hi KAren

Ive posted this on one of the other places that there is a thread about this but for cards already done this month , can team members claim points for those, just not for those from today onwards ?

Thanks in advance

xxx

[scrapdolly]

Crads won't be counted for this months points reporting, no matter when in the month they were done. Sorry
I figure you would have made the cards anyway - it's just the points that are different

[AJH]

No problem Karen , just wanted to make sure for my team . Thanks for letting me know.

xx

[Tullavilla]

Well I doubt the rule changes are ever going to affect me....I can't imagine me ever managing 39 lo's in a month. Do make the odd card, but 5 points isn't going to make a major difference :)
Am just amazed that people would feel the need to cheat about something like this.....its not like they're going to gain massively from it! Oh well, I already upload most things & doubt i'll ever make those limits so will just carry on as normal :)

[Lana]

Hi Karen,like many other fellow scrappers I also do quite a lot of LOs.Most of which I put into my uks gallery.So My question is,if my Los are in my gallery do I still need to send them to scrapbunny aswell?

[scrapdolly]

So long as every LO that you are claiming for is in your gallery - posted there during the month - at points collecting time then you don't need to send an e mail. Obviously this is only an issue if you claim for more than 39 I note that you have 8 in your gallery this month so far

edited to add I can see a potential problem with that. I have just checked my own gallery and I have several LO's in it that were posted in my gallery in June but were layouts that were done in Ma and April, but as they were for a design team I could not post them until now. It looks like they were done in June but they were not. Conversely I have done several layouts in June that are for design teams and magazines that can't be uploaded yet. So I am not sure that just looking at the gallery would work.

I think if you claim more than 39 you will still have to e mail them

[Jems]

edited - just re read the above post x

[craftykitten]

Just like to add my voice to say Thank You to Karen and Fi for all your hard work - I can see you've tried to make it as fair as possible, and as this is a scrapping board (primarily, anyway!) I can see the logic for not giving points for cards and altered stuff. It's a shame, cos that's what I do most, but I'll just have to get my finger out and actually scrap for a change!! :)

Such a pity that people have felt the need to cheat.

Kate x

[katie squirrel]

I would like to add a big thank you for all the hard work that goes into organising all these things - I know the teams come up with the challenge info, but it is scrapdolly or scrapbunny usually who chases up and posts on home page etc. I do make a few cards each month, but am not really bothered about not getting points... I look on it for fun, and have to say that since joining a team, it has made me scrap much more... love doing the challenges.

Can I just ask a silly question please... if you do the weekly challenge and get your 30 bonus points, do you still get your 10pts for a SLO too??? I guess so as its "bonus" points for the challenge.. but just wanted to check..

[scrapdolly]

Weekly challenges carry the usual 10 points for a single LO plus however many of the 30 maximum bonus points you qualify for

Thanks to everyone for their support. This wasn't an easy thing to do - Thank You x

[louey0]

Hi,thanks for your time, I will tell the team.
Such a shame we have people complain about honesty,is this not just for fun,? or did I miss something? Come on gang lighten up a bit.........(not you scrapdolly and Fi),we all do this cause we enjoy it. If some people have nothing better to do than worry about who's cheating they are not spending much time scrapping.............!!!!!!
Well done scrapdolly and Fi,for taking control. What a hard job you have and it shouldn't be like this at all.
Keep up the good work.
Lou
xx

[persephone]

Thanks Fi and Karen for all your hard work. personally don't think I'll be affected :lol: as I don't think I manage 39 Lo's in a month. I've learnt something today though- you get the standard 10 points plus 30 for a challenge LO- never realsied that before :ph34r:

I have to say that the points system isn't my reason for scrapping but the challenges are inspirational and when i've lost my mojo I can always find something here to motivate me. That's what the points system does as well, it's a little kick up the proverbial to get me going again.

Off to Camelot now- hopefully there'll be some photo opps leading to scrapping LO's for my monthly quota :lol:

Catch you all later and thanks Karen and Fi xx

[karenproberts]

Can we just send you the links to the pics in our gallery for mini albums rather than sending the actual pics? I have mine posted on the gallery and on my blog?

Amazingly I have actually done 3 this month.

Karen

[scrapdolly]

Karen
If they are all uploaded to your gallery here in their entirity then you don't need to e mail them, but if they are not on here and you have more than the recommended number then you need to e mail the pictures to Fi
Hope that helps

[karenproberts]

Thanks - the album i made has pics of someone else so i wasn't able to upload those pages. Will make sure I email it all to you.

Karen

[yizzard]

This wont affect me but I am just wondering - you are saying that it would be unfair to penalise those who can not upload for reasons of technology, but surely those who need to email you their 39+ LO's but cant photo or scan them are going to be penalised? Surely if they cant scan or photo for the gallery they still wont be able to scan or photo for the email?

Plus you do realise you are going to get alot of emails because there is a gallery limit? I have just counted and I have got 42 LO's in mine and am nearly up to the limit, I can probably only get another 2 in before hitting the max.

[scrapdolly]

Yizz there are very very few people who were claiming more than 39 layout a month

And yes, it will penalise anyone who cannot scan and upload and does more than 39 layouts, but I am figuring that might not affect anyone or if it does, very few.

I think Fi will get very few e mails actually.

We had to do something as we were getting complaints from too many people. Heck - this whole thing is meant to be FUN!

[scrapjax]

Right so I take this is all per person then and not per team?

No problems here - none of us do more than 39 Los each a month!!

[DebU]

Just bookmarking - seems fair to me.

[Rosemary]

What a difficult decision to make - I am jsut glad it isn't me that had to be involved in making it. I do feel sad that you have had to do this too. I for one am going to have to watch as I get close to 39 some months, particularly when there are gift albums and holidays to be scrapped but it will not be often that I go over the numbers.

Thanks for all you do Karen and Fi.

[yizzard]

Thanks for clarifying that Karen - I somehow got the impression there were loads of peeps churning out LO's by the score :lol: I guess if it is only going to affect a few peeps then you have to come to the best decision to please everyone.
Its a shame that we have come to a point where we cant trust people at their word though and it is going to make more work for you and Fi this way but I can see this is the fairest way and want to thank you and Fi for all the hard work and keeping this going.

[karen433]

Just wanted to say the changes seem fair to me, won't really effect me that much and a very big thank you to Karen and Fi for all the hard work you both put into organising the challenges and point system, take a pat on the back.
At the end of the day it is just abit of fun that is added to the pleasure of scrapping.

Keep up the good work girls :)

[BernieTuffs]

Thanks Karen & Fi for sorting things. Personally I never get near to that many LOs per month any more! Its amzing how this team thing has taken off - when mine formed, almost 2 years ago now, there really weren't very many at all!

Am just a tad confuzzed though after reading some of this thread - if I make a whole album about my DD's Holy Communion - 20 sLOs - they'll probably mostly be one large photo with a hand cut title, maybe a bit of journalling and the odd embellishment - so that will mean they do all look similar, but that's the aim almost for continuity in an album with such a narrow theme.

Does that mean I can't claim points for all the Los if they're similar like that?

Bernie X

[scrapdolly]

No Bernie - you can still claim points - they will be different photos and individual pages - no probs with that at all

[ljrn]

Karen - just a quick query - do FOTW still go in the cards+FOTW column? As always, thanks for everything you and Fi do :wub:

[BernieTuffs]

:wub: Thanks Karen!:wub:
Bernie X

[winterbaby]

I'd just started getting back into card making as well, that's not to say that I won't make anymore cards like :) But never mind the points anyway isn't it all about the fun of taking part thats more important. Thanks Karen ;) :)

[jot]

A shame that it's had to happen, but that's life I suppose! Thanks for sorting it out.

However......some notice would have been nice rather than letting us know in the middle of June of changes relating to June's points.

[scrapdolly]

I am assuming that people would have done the scrapping and the cards they have made anyway so figured that the fact the points were changing was not so key to the whole thing
I am sorry you are disappointed.

FOTW still go int he card colum as it was always a joint column

[jot]

I understand that Karen, just that I was looking forward to contributing some decent points this month!! Oh well, I'm going to a crop on 1st July, so that should get me going!

[alilydon]

i everyone... us chit chat chicks just wanna have fun... we will stick with the rules, whatever they are... Must admit my Summer holiday challenge is to make trillions of LOs so I will not file them away until they are duely photographed etc!! Off to tell the tesam now.

BTW- are you going to let other team leaders know? ( I only found this by accident!!)

Happy scrapping everyone

Keep up all the good work Fi and Karen

[AJH]

HI Ali

Our Red Ribbons House leader let us know, saying that I had already seen the thread . I guess all the House Leaders should let their teams know.

xxxx

[ljrn]

The Green buttons have spread the word as well - but I got there first ;)

[scrapdolly]

I asked the house leaders to let their teams know.

[Rosani]

Here I am and I'm going to be a pain: I AM one of those people that occasionally does more than 39 LOs a month and why? Because I spend time scrapping and not uploading my work to UKS! (plus not got much of a life I suppose;))

I do have a PC at home and a digital camera however I stopped uploading to UKS ages ago when I could only do one photo at a time. I upload to other galleries now that make it possible to do more than one at a time - reason: I am NOT on broadband and uploading just one LO can take more than 15 minutes! 40 layouts x 15 minutes each = 600 minutes or 10 hours! Impossible to do, I say. Not to mention extremely expensive on my dial-up charges.

The other option, to send an email, well that's just not possible for me as I do not have nor intend to get, software that will let me do this.

Most of the time I'm on UKS at work and of course I am just not able to upload/scan my layouts here. That is just not possible, full stop. So where does this leave me?

It means, for my team, that my submissions will reduce simply because I am not trusted and can not PROVE that I've done the amount I claim to do. There are "independent adjudicators" here in my MK crop that can vouch for me but of course that would be worthless so everyone loses. What a shame.

[AJH]

HI Claudia

Just trying to help....you obviously have to have a service provider for your dial up service, even if it is just a pay as you go one like Tiscali or someone else, but you dont actually need email software to send email , as far as I know you just need to send email from your service providers email link which is usually on their home page. I understand that this must be frustrating for anyone concerned but I dont doubt that this decision was a very difficult one to make by Karen and everyone. Hope you didnt mind me trying to help.

xxxx

[Rosani]

HI Claudia

Just trying to help....you obviously have to have a service provider for your dial up service, even if it is just a pay as you go one like Tiscali or someone else, but you dont actually need email software to send email , as far as I know you just need to send email from your service providers email link which is usually on their home page. I understand that this must be frustrating for anyone concerned but I dont doubt that this decision was a very difficult one to make by Karen and everyone. Hope you didnt mind me trying to help.

xxxx

Sorry, I didn't explain myself well: I can send email but what I can't do is stitch together 39+ LOs in one file to then send on. They don't want 40 separate emails so I either do one huge one (which would also take forever to send) or I spend ages trying to stitch together all my LOs into one file which is almost the most boring thing I can think of doing on my PC.

THanks for trying to help though - sorry I didn't explain myself fully. My fingers can't keep up with all the thoughts going through my head at the moment.

[AJH]

Hi again Claudia

Yep I must admit I cant or dont know how to stitch them altogether either .... and yes I can understand that on dial up it would take a hell of a time to send that large email too... I know what you mean , my fingers often type quicker than my thoughts and not exactly what is in my head !! Anyway take care .

xxxx

[Secretme]

I let me team know as soon as I saw this thread, just lucky I saw it I guess, I frequently miss these things :wub:

[jaime120899]

:unsure: Right then, I'm feeling a bit of a dimwit here. I am aiming to do two albums for my twin nieces, who we took to Disneyworld. Now, obviously they are both going to be in most of the photos. So if I do two separate albums, which are very similar, then I can only claim points for one of them. ....I think!! If I did 39 LOs in six months I'd be doing well!!

[RozRoz]

thanks for this thread about the changes, and my team are aware of the changes but we have one small question. If you do two albums that are similiar do you need to send pics if the quantity is under 39?

hope you understand what I mean.

Thanks

Roz
Scraphappens team leader

[scrapdolly]

The two albums would be fine and you onlye ver need to e mail anything if you go over our maximum non-upload limits. So less than 39 LO a month - nothing to e mail.

[Aristoscrap]

lol - I haven't done 39 LO's since I started scrapping!! I even feel guilty claiming points for a 6 x 6 book I made cos the points seem plentiful for the work I actually did!

[RozRoz]

Karen, thank you so much for getting back to me, have had a look over team points and seems none of us have produced more than 39 layouts in any one month anyway, so no worries there. Must admit I'm guilty of making tons of cards though, so will miss those points, but understand the need for change, and I appreciate all the work and time you put into this for us.

Thank you

[Scrapcomber]

not duplicates of the same page and that pages are not being re-worked with only slight modifications.
Just a quick queston.
As I do my main albums in a CM format (see Glendurgan and Pond Dipping in Gallery) because of having to catch up on over 26 years of photos, many pages may fall into the comment above. Do I count them or not?

[Flo]

another quick question - I made a handmade book / album the other day, from scratch, see here (http://flo-space.blogspot.com/2006/06/my-first-flag-book.html), do I get any points for this? (given there's nothing actually in it yet...)

[TracyTeaBag]

well i am not one to whinge, so I will be breif as I do appreciate what Karen and Fi do, however.... I would have appreciated being told there was a change to points, normally we get a reminder on our thread about submitting points, I didn't find out until one of the team mentioned it.

I have one team member who regularly exceeds 39 LOs, it seems a shame to penalise her and make her spend valuable scrapping time scanning and emailing LOs!

Surely people don't cheat over points and to be honest if they do,so what!! If they really are that small minded and it makes them feel better, then leave them to it, surely it is a case of the minority spoiling it for the majority.

[scrapdolly]

I am so sorry that you were not told. I did ask house leaders to flag it up, plus it was a hot topic early in the month when I posted the changes.
With the best will in the world and a fulltime job I cannot possibly post in all 76 threads about changes.

And we had to make changes because a lot of questions were being asked by a lot of people - hence the reasoning behind it.

I am sorry that your team member will feel the need to spend time scanning and e mailing. She could always just claim for 39 and be done with if it is easier for her. I haven't exceeded 39 this month (and I often do) but if I was very busy I would just claim for 39 and be done with personally

[katy75]

Come on people - Karen does a fantastic job on a voluntary basis. I for one have the greatest respect for her and all the hard work she puts in to keeping the teams running and running successfully.

Don't take it personally Karen, we :wub: you.

[picxie]

ok lol this is a totally hypothetical question... kind of slow and steady scrappers says it all :D :D :D its a miracle if i manage 9 los let alone 39 :D :D
would a contact sheet of more than 39 los be accepted as proof?? im just thinking it would only take a second or so to create one of those... or will they have to be individually pasted into an a4 template???

[scrapdolly]

Contact sheet would be fine

[Scrapcomber]

OK, what is a contact sheet please?:unsure:

[picxie]

its a preview of all images in a folder.. you can print it directly from psp or even windows printing wizard.. so rather than opening all the indivual images and collating them you just take a print of thumbnails of all the images in that one folder... done in seconds

[Scrapcomber]

Many thanks :)

[jot]

Great idea picxie - not that I've done more than 6 LOs in a month so far, but the holiday bus may change that!

[lukasmummy]

pscs2 is easy to make contact sheets.
Does anyone want some instructions?

[JAZZY1972]

This is a really helpful thread, thanks for pointing me to it Scrapdolly

Jay xx

[lozzle]

ok i have a couple of questions regarding points what are exploding boxes worth if any ?

and if i join a cj what points do i get and how do they work out and i know they are mentioned above but i dont get it lol and do i claim the points at the end of the cj ?

[katie squirrel]

I think the exploding boxes are worth 25 points if not finished, and 50 points if finished with pictures etc.

The CJ - you get 25 points for making your CJ, then you can claim 25 points per entry in each CJ - this is whether you do 1, 2 or 4 pages in it, it is just per CJ you make an entry in.

Does that make sense?!?! SO first month if you make your own CJ and do an entry in it you would claim 50pts, then the following month if you do an entry its 25 points....

[lozzle]

ok thats cool and if im only in one cj i dont need to email anything as it will only be 1 entry per month

[Craftdee]

Please can someone tell me how many points I can claim for maze books? I have made two with just the covers and backs decorated. Thank you.

[ljrn]

Think they had to be fully decorated to claim 25 points - dare say someone more knowledgable will be along soon to confirm

[Craftdee]

Oh, OK, thanks though Liz.

[scrapdolly]

Liz is correct
As you have made them no points I'm afarid. Fully decorated they would score 25 points

[Craftdee]

Awww OK :( I am using one of them for a hen night book - so that everyone who attends can right "good wishes" inside for the 'bride to be'.

[Scrapcomber]

What is a Maze Book please?

[peechy]

lynne, this is a maze book (http://www.scrapbook-crazy.com/maze-book-instructions.html)
and here's some made up in the gallery (http://www.ukscrappers.co.uk/photopost/showgallery.php?mcats=all&si=maze+book&what=allfields&name=&when=0&whenterm=&condition=and):wub:

karen! after all this time i've come up with a question re: THE MINI BOOK MAXIMUMS, ooops caps on, I have just seen a spreadsheet were a team member has made 3 tag books and 2 minibooks. do i count them as one item for the maximum (2) or do i go for each item and take the maximium for that, (2+2) ?
I will enclose both totals in the points i'm sending you today as i dont want to hold everything up and when i see your answer i'll know for future months, ta hun xxx

[scrapdolly]

I would deal with them separately - so 2 and 2 IYSWIM

[peechy]

ta hun, thats what i had thought but then got thrown yestyrday, no sleep i guess ;)

[leigh11]

Liz is correct
As you have made them no points I'm afarid. Fully decorated they would score 25 points

is there a maximum number of maze books (decorated) that can be claimed in a month?? I'd like to do some for DS's teachers!!!

[Sonja.B]

Claiming for more than 2 mini books /tag books/accordion books

If you claim for more than 2 mini books in a month the pages must all be scanned and e mailed in the same way as detailed above.


Found this on the front page.
Does that help?

[leigh11]

Thanks, I saw that but didn't know if maze books was the same as accordian books-just me being dim :lol:

[Sonja.B]

Liz is correct
As you have made them no points I'm afarid. Fully decorated they would score 25 points

Fully decorated they are 25 points - I KNEW I has seen it somewhere.

[leigh11]

ok, so if I make one and decorate it its 25pts, but if i do more than two I have to scan each page???

Think I'll just do two:lol:

[faye1978]

Hello:D Me again. Anyone know what a 'clippy-kit' is and can one of my team members claim for it and how many points?

Thanks x

[Kat the Cobbler]

One of the girls in our team has done five minibooks this month. Do i have to send the email to scrappybunny or does she.

[Sonja.B]

I think she has to send them.

Seeing as you are on the Green Buttons team I will know that they have been emailed. But if she were not then a note to the team leader would help then she knows its been sent.

Does that make sense?

[Kat the Cobbler]

that's what I thought. I was going to make a note to you anyway.

I will hopefully get the points sent to you tonight.

[clamar]

Do you get points for altering items - thinking of altering a jar....

Hugs

[scrapdolly]

I'm afraid not

Could we ask that all questions go in the questions thread or we may miss them
Thanks ladies

[Patty]

Could you please give me some guidance as to whether I can count points for a little exploding box which is decorated with all sorts of bits inside and out? Thank you.

[alison 2]

sorry, not managed to find the question thread.
Can the team setting the weekly challenge claim the 30 points for their LO's too??

[katie squirrel]

sorry, not managed to find the question thread.
Can the team setting the weekly challenge claim the 30 points for their LO's too??


You need to ask questions on the questions thread or they will get missed and not picked up...............

see you have received answer on questions thread..

[Craftdee]

Sorry I can't find the questions thread referred to above or a definitive list of how many points you can claim for ... whatever. I would just like to know how many points you can claim for making your CJ and your own entry in it. Can anyone help please?

[fiona3103]

Hi Craftdee, 25 for making and 25 for your own entry..

The points list is here.. (http://www.ukscrappers.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=196938)

[scrappybunny]

The Questions thread is in the UKS Team Challenge forum

hth :D

[Craftdee]

Please could someone post a link to the questions thead - as I and a few others it appears are really having trouble finding the questions thread. Thanks in advance.

[fiona3103]

Questions Thread Here (http://www.ukscrappers.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?p=5219271#post5219271)

[Craftdee]

Thank you very much (hugs)